...Step by step, small progress has been made here, I learned new mechanics...But I really don't know why i'm so stuck: most of my wormholes are closed, access from 11,15 too . Is it because I can't reach my last kitten in 14,15 ? Any Hint is very very welcome for this saturday night ;-/
Gur fbyhgvba hfrf n zrpunavp vagebqhprq va ebbz 11,20.
Hfr n ebpx gb oernx gur cnggrea bs gur pybavat zrqhfn.
Solution:
Chfu n ebpx gb gur evtug bs gur gbc evtug pybare, gura chfu gur zrqhfn hc jvgu n ebpx fb gur zrqhfnf pybar vagb rnpu bgure. Gura chfu gur ebpx gb gur yrsg naq tb hc.
"Confounding Cloning Conjecture" is a level all about having more than one cat. I hope the mechanisms aren't too hard to handle. They might be a bit too much.
This is my Japanese WIP playthrough (FYI part 1 to 4 are NSS1). This game is brutally difficult to find a possible way to get the secrets, but the puzzles are very exciting.
Push the 8 step flag into the cloner, then push one of the copies down. Delete the rock by pushing it into the cloner, then clone yourself. Generate a dead cat by cloning into the flag, then push it down to get it onto the flag.
Push the medusa into the area with spikes and conveyors so the 3-step flag pushes the rock, then the bottom 3-step flag is pushed onto the spikes and lets you pass.
It's impossible if you're in the 1-space corner, you need to reach the top. To do that, you need to die without moving left, then exit from the left. If you've already reached the top, then push the rock onto the conveyor.
You need an extra cat. There is one in the preceding room, but you don't have enough movement. If you've opened the wormhole in 7,17 then you already have what you need. If you haven't, then you've got some other puzzles to solve first.
Then stack the cats and rocks so that you have the rocks above and below the flag, one cat on the flag, and one cat above. Then go straight down.
That's exactly what it seems to be. Just getting the cats requires solving a puzzle for each one. Getting a lot of the stars requires solving a chain of puzzles. And the secrets require.... a bit of lateral thinking would be an understatement. There's a reason I called the developer an evil genius somewhere in this comment section. The puzzle chains are brilliant.
If you're still working on 6,16, you won't be able to do that until you've unlocked the portals at 7,16. Those don't necessarily require that you got the star from 9,14 - but if you do have to start there, and having gotten the star will give you a very strong clue about how to start. (not that unlocking the portals is part of solving 6,16 - just that it will happen naturally on the way, and will make it easier to come back later)
Yeah, I've gone back through that one a couple times (because I forgot which portal would get me back to that room) and I have to figure it out again every time. But I think I've optimized it now.
To get past the top medusas, keep the cats as far apart as you can for the first two steps:
Left medusa down 2
Middle medusa down 2
Position one cat below and one at right of the left flag
Now you can "wiggle" the cats down through the medusas
For the bottom medusas, the easiest thing to do is hold back two of the cats by the blue flags, send the first cat through. Push the left medusa down. Then jump on the spikes. Send the second cat the same way. Third cat pushes the middle medusa down.
I know there was a small easter egg at the end of part 1 where if you used 2 cats to get into the actual teleporter, a goat would push the other cat in. Is there a little easter egg like that in this game?
The one with the sign that says "might be the hardest star in the game"? That one's not actually so bad, but I'll admit I kind of found the solution by accident - but I might have realized it was the solution if I'd remembered that room while I was playing the end-game.
Part of what makes this one hard is that it combines multiple game mechanics, some of which you don't really learn about until the end of the game. If you got the star in 9,14 already you know a number of those mechanics. The last mechanic you don't learn until the end of the game, but you find out about it in a giant room full of kill-flags.
I'm only stuck on two last stars - one I haven't even found yet, and that one in 14,17. I already know there's a lot that can be done in that room that isn't immediately obvious, but I haven't figure out any way to abuse what's in that room to get a cat into that little hole. I've tried pushing a dead cat up and then pushing a flag onto it, but the medusa stones it right away. And I can't see any way to get a cat facing the other direction there.
I can't believe this... I figured this out just a minute before I saw you'd posted a hint, because someone else mentioned what room to use. But I'm annoyed at myself it took so long because I've used every game mechanic this required repeatedly to solve other stars and secrets, and yet every time I looked at this one I just kept thinking "but, my cat will turn to stone, so I can't come in that way". /facepalm
Competor has started uploading a walkthrough of it on his channel in this playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqnMDAwv_U-ychsgqingwF3CiWCaVdkm5. the 5th video in the playlist is where part 2 starts. Two important things to note is that Competor is from Japan, so you will probably need to use translated subtitles if you want to understand what he's saying if you don't understand Japanese; and that as of the day I'm posting this reply, 5 of the videos aren't public yet but, based on the upload pattern of the previous parts, I believe it should all be public by January 15th 2023. I might wait for someone else who speaks english such as Joseph Mansfield to cover the game https://www.youtube.com/@JoePlaysPuzzleGames unless I'm desperate to find out the solution to a certain puzzle.
Do the wormholes have any pattern to what tile they take you to if you break them? I thought maybe average or sum, but it doesn't seem that way. But then why do you get teleported to weird places inside of walls? Why not just teleport straight to the destination? And then what about disambiguation space?
I was about to whine about how sure I was that I would reach section (7,20)'s hallway using... a method. I thought it was a bug, because how else should that hallway be reached?
Can confirm that this is hard. I don't know if/when I'll beat this level, but if anyone else beats it before me, I guess you can claim you bested the game's creator! (At this particular user level, anyway.)
Actually, none of the bugs (to my knowledge) can appear in the editor or user levels due to the limitations of the editor. Which is a little surprising to me!
Correct! I'm actually kind of sad, since I feel like people were given a worse "experience" due to this bug. Hopefully it should be patched by tomorrow! (I was slow on implementing bugfixes because I wanted to take a break.)
PLEASE DON'T PATCH IT YET!!! If you do, that will trigger my OCD and other mental health disorders and conditions resulting in me being unable to play or enjoy the game.
Not sure which part of it you're stuck on, so here's the answers to both puzzle parts needed to exit the room. If it's the star your stuck on, I'm at a complete loss on that one too.
Rot13, just for variety this time ;)
The kitty-conveyor (I assume this is the sticking point - at least it's the part that took me a long time until I just stumbled onto it):
Fgrc bss gur 6-synt, fgrc onpx ba gur 6-synt. Jnyx fgenvtug bagb gur pbairlbe oryg. Fgrc vagb gur ragenapr ghaary naq onpx gb ergevrir n png. Erivir gur png. Hfr gur gjb pngf gb chfu gur qrnq png bagb gur vpr.
The 0-flag stack:
Gevttre gur synt naq qvr. Chfu gur obggbz obhyqre evtug, chfu gur gbc obhyqre evtug. Trg ba gbc bs gur fgnpx - vg'yy chfu lbh hc, fnivat lbh gur bar zbir lbh bgurejvfr arrqrq gb znxr vg gb gur rkvg.
I'd advise you proceed to the rocket/finale first, by saving enough cats to open the gate. If you've done that already, just leave the screen. ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
You say "top section" so I assume you've just passed the splitter?
You need to revive the cat by pushing it onto the 9 or 3 flag. The only purpose for reviving a cat is to stone one to nuke the 4-flag. Get both cats above the medusa so that one is above the flag and other other directly above the medusa. Move one down to destroy the flag. Then you have just enough movement to get down to the 9-flag, which gives you just enough to reach the top 4-flag.
That doesn't give you enough to reach the top exit though. This is where it's evil, and you learn something new about the way the maps work (although you might have run into it on another level already).
Step out the left exit - there's a hidden tunnel you can use to come back in the right one space closer to the top exit, with 5 movement points.
That one took me a while too. Once I solved it I thought "oh yeah, that was obvious in hindsight"... and then I went back to redo it to answer you and it took me several minutes to remember the solution.
Hints and solution, after the break (if I put enough lines in this of course :P)
You won't be able to solve 5,15 until you beat the room at least once. Don't even try for the star before that.
The 8-star flag gives you enough moves to reach the star - but only if the 1-star flag is gone. There's nowhere you can push the 1-star flag to get rid of it though. There is another way to remove a flag, that you probably hit in another level.
Solution:
After beating the level, return from the top. Revive the extra cat, position the cats so that the revived cat is between the 4 and the medusa. Petrify the original cat on the 1-star flag to remove it. Loop through the flags to restore your movement and get the star.
How do you beat the level? That's what I meant by "complete". I usually use "complete" to indicate solving the level and "star" to get the star(specific to this game). I use similar phraseology for other games as well.
I think I just glitched it. No idea what I did, but I just loaded up the game, "died" and the "dead"(part of the level) cat was suddenly spawned alive while my "active" cat was at the beginning of the section. So now I have a cat "stuck" on the six flags(no pun intended) while the glitched one can easily get to the flag LMAO. Can't solve the level though!
Ah, sorry. I saw the "stuck on star" and misread the "how to complete" question.
Solution follows (as long as I didn't miss a step):
Revive the extra cat. Move around to the left of the "free" medusa. Push the medusa right, stoning the original cat. You have just enough movement left to grab the 4-flag, but that won't be enough. So hit the 4, then go to the 8 to top up. Then you can push the stone/medusa one space further. Use the 4 again to reach the 8, push the medusa down, then just keep bouncing between the flags as necessary until you can push the rock and the 1-flag into the tunnel enough to turn around and walk up past the last medusa.
lbh arrq gb fjnc gur cbfvgvba bs gur ebpx naq gur fgnghr. fgneg ol chfuvat gur fgnghr gb gur evtug (hfvat gur ebpx). gura chfu gur ebpx qbja naq nebhaq gb gur evtug bs gur fgnghr. chfu gurz obgu gb gur yrsg. trg gur ebpx ba gbc bs gur fgnghr naq chfu gurz hc gbtrgure, gura jva.
NGL, my progress(a lot) got cleared somehow the first playthrough. I created a new browser profile(chrome) and it seems okay now. Also, I can't remember how I did most of it. The majority of rooms, I cleared(and stars) by literally trying random combinations.
Really the only puzzle I can do is the star in room 5,15. I think everything else is locked behind that lol. I'm sure I'm just being stupid but I've worked on this room alone for over an hour.
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I think I'm stuck.
*I can TP out; what I mean is I'm stuck because I cannot get out of this position "naturally"
did they changed this room so people can use the old glitch to skip the door?
...Step by step, small progress has been made here, I learned new mechanics...But I really don't know why i'm so stuck: most of my wormholes are closed, access from 11,15 too . Is it because I can't reach my last kitten in 14,15 ? Any Hint is very very welcome for this saturday night ;-/
Hints and solution below, in rot13:
”I'm pawsitively grateful that you rescued me!” Comedian Zelig ... and me
Ah ah, thank you ! I had managed to do much complicated (and beautiful)stuff!
Please help me.
To exit the room from the top? You need to start with 3 cats.
Oh... Thank you for telling me...
You need to work through a really long chain of puzzles starting at 9,14
I just used the bug
I'd already found the chain, but when I got here with two cats, the wormhole opened up, so I mistakenly thought two cats were enough.
Now I've already reached the end of the chain and I'm exploring another place.
And I'm stuck again! (But I want to solve it on my own because it looks so simple)
Two cats are enough to get the star, but you need three to exit from the top.
"Confounding Cloning Conjecture" is a level all about having more than one cat. I hope the mechanisms aren't too hard to handle. They might be a bit too much.
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i think you forgot to move the spawn for test last level lol
Aw maaan, should be correct now I can edit my posts
bro is having a stroke and speaking the language of the gods
Cool level, thanks for sharing! Actually, all the levels shared so far have been cool.
I'm currently stuck on the third room, though. I'll see if I can beat it later...
This is my Japanese WIP playthrough (FYI part 1 to 4 are NSS1). This game is brutally difficult to find a possible way to get the secrets, but the puzzles are very exciting.
I've looked through it but not what I need.
How to get past bottom left of screen? I tried cat Cloning but doeesn't work
you are already too late
You can't go through the wormhole, you need the puzzle before it
Tutorial please
Spoiler:
Push the 8 step flag into the cloner, then push one of the copies down. Delete the rock by pushing it into the cloner, then clone yourself. Generate a dead cat by cloning into the flag, then push it down to get it onto the flag.
12, 21 help
Help
you get the star from next level
I posted a solution to this somewhere below (in rot13)
I'll just put it after the break
Push a dead cat (facing left) down from the room above
Help
i guess i already told you
Huh?
Try going to the room on the right, and then returning
(It seems that going *past* the star is also a thing, but haven't gotten there)
I can't get past
To get past the star:
Push the medusa into the area with spikes and conveyors so the 3-step flag pushes the rock, then the bottom 3-step flag is pushed onto the spikes and lets you pass.
I can't get past the room itself. Needs instructions from the 5 flag
Spoiler:
It's impossible if you're in the 1-space corner, you need to reach the top. To do that, you need to die without moving left, then exit from the left. If you've already reached the top, then push the rock onto the conveyor.
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how do i use the idea to make harder puzzle? anyone pls do it
I can't figure out how to exit the bottom of
8,186,16. (edit)I just used the glitch before I smashed my computer to pieces
It allows an extra cat then you have it easier with the coconuts
Spoiler:
You need an extra cat. There is one in the preceding room, but you don't have enough movement. If you've opened the wormhole in 7,17 then you already have what you need. If you haven't, then you've got some other puzzles to solve first.
Then stack the cats and rocks so that you have the rocks above and below the flag, one cat on the flag, and one cat above. Then go straight down.
The game is turning into a chain of puzzles, where each one lets me solve the next. Or is that what it already is?
That's exactly what it seems to be. Just getting the cats requires solving a puzzle for each one. Getting a lot of the stars requires solving a chain of puzzles. And the secrets require.... a bit of lateral thinking would be an understatement. There's a reason I called the developer an evil genius somewhere in this comment section. The puzzle chains are brilliant.
If you're still working on 6,16, you won't be able to do that until you've unlocked the portals at 7,16. Those don't necessarily require that you got the star from 9,14 - but if you do have to start there, and having gotten the star will give you a very strong clue about how to start. (not that unlocking the portals is part of solving 6,16 - just that it will happen naturally on the way, and will make it easier to come back later)
I opened the portals already, just can't figure out how to position the medusas in 6,16 to get to the bottom
Yeah, I've gone back through that one a couple times (because I forgot which portal would get me back to that room) and I have to figure it out again every time. But I think I've optimized it now.
To get past the top medusas, keep the cats as far apart as you can for the first two steps:
For the bottom medusas, the easiest thing to do is hold back two of the cats by the blue flags, send the first cat through. Push the left medusa down. Then jump on the spikes. Send the second cat the same way. Third cat pushes the middle medusa down.
I think I found an unintended solution in 7,12 (spoiler)
I actually know about that one, and decided to keep it in. It's an intended unintended solution, in a sense.
Oxymoron
:)
I know there was a small easter egg at the end of part 1 where if you used 2 cats to get into the actual teleporter, a goat would push the other cat in. Is there a little easter egg like that in this game?
There's a place near the end where I could add something like that in, but I haven't done so yet.
No need: you are the GOAT
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the game don't have a do nothing key, and i make it
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classic platform level lol
Need walkthrough. Stuck on stars.
There don't seem to be any. I've been trying to figure out the 'hardest star' for hours!
The one with the sign that says "might be the hardest star in the game"? That one's not actually so bad, but I'll admit I kind of found the solution by accident - but I might have realized it was the solution if I'd remembered that room while I was playing the end-game.
Part of what makes this one hard is that it combines multiple game mechanics, some of which you don't really learn about until the end of the game. If you got the star in 9,14 already you know a number of those mechanics. The last mechanic you don't learn until the end of the game, but you find out about it in a giant room full of kill-flags.
I'm only stuck on two last stars - one I haven't even found yet, and that one in 14,17. I already know there's a lot that can be done in that room that isn't immediately obvious, but I haven't figure out any way to abuse what's in that room to get a cat into that little hole. I've tried pushing a dead cat up and then pushing a flag onto it, but the medusa stones it right away. And I can't see any way to get a cat facing the other direction there.
I got that one quickly through an apparent glitch. See post below(somewhere down there).
The star in 14,17: (rot13)
Vafgrnq bs chfuvat n qrnq png hc, lbh arrq gb chfu n qrnq png qbja sebz gur ebbz nobir.
Not the one I need
I can't believe this... I figured this out just a minute before I saw you'd posted a hint, because someone else mentioned what room to use. But I'm annoyed at myself it took so long because I've used every game mechanic this required repeatedly to solve other stars and secrets, and yet every time I looked at this one I just kept thinking "but, my cat will turn to stone, so I can't come in that way". /facepalm
Competor has started uploading a walkthrough of it on his channel in this playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqnMDAwv_U-ychsgqingwF3CiWCaVdkm5. the 5th video in the playlist is where part 2 starts. Two important things to note is that Competor is from Japan, so you will probably need to use translated subtitles if you want to understand what he's saying if you don't understand Japanese; and that as of the day I'm posting this reply, 5 of the videos aren't public yet but, based on the upload pattern of the previous parts, I believe it should all be public by January 15th 2023. I might wait for someone else who speaks english such as Joseph Mansfield to cover the game https://www.youtube.com/@JoePlaysPuzzleGames unless I'm desperate to find out the solution to a certain puzzle.
Do the wormholes have any pattern to what tile they take you to if you break them? I thought maybe average or sum, but it doesn't seem that way. But then why do you get teleported to weird places inside of walls? Why not just teleport straight to the destination? And then what about disambiguation space?
rot13.com: lbh trg gryrcbegrq svir ebbzf hc, naq n fvatyr fgrir nccrnef va gur fnzr cynpr eryngvir gb gur gbc naq obggbz obeqre bs gur yriry. Gurer'f bar rkprcgvba gb gur "svir ebbzf hc" ehyr, ohg vg'f snveyl boivbhf bapr lbh'ir frra vg.
Thanks for spoiling, that makes my life so much easier.
How do you break them?
By attempting two leave the screen in too many different ways.
The bug doesn't work in certain sections
WTF?!?!?
Not edited! This is awkward...
How
No idea
It just happened randomly
I was abusing the respawn bug but then it did this(never happened before). My intent was to get the "dead" cats to resurrect upon reload.
Why doesn't it ask you to press enter?
EDIT: when the cat spawns in a room it is "immune" to features
The enable old bugs keeps resetting itself to off(it won't save). A bug needs the page to refresh, but since it resets, the bug is not usable. Help!
I realized there was a bug with the setting. Version 1.1.1 should fix this.
Thank you!
yes yes yes yes YES NOOOOO
I was about to whine about how sure I was that I would reach section (7,20)'s hallway using... a method. I thought it was a bug, because how else should that hallway be reached?
so I returned from whence I came.
no... YES YESYESYES
A custom level centered around tricky ice techniques:
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Can confirm that this is hard. I don't know if/when I'll beat this level, but if anyone else beats it before me, I guess you can claim you bested the game's creator! (At this particular user level, anyway.)
I think I beat it? Or did I cheat it? At this point, I know there are bugs so IDK.
Actually, none of the bugs (to my knowledge) can appear in the editor or user levels due to the limitations of the editor. Which is a little surprising to me!
SPOILER
tfw you can't level your steves :(
Joining the 100% club. Great, deep game; definitely recommend to everyone who likes sokoban puzzle games.
Star 14,19. It wouldn't let me paste this screenshot(internal glitch I think)
Help
Can someone tell me how to get it
Qb lbh xabj jung lbhe tbny vf urer? 15,20 zvtug tvir lbh fbzr vqrnf.
HELP!!!
Need help
Star 8,18
This is high key triggering my OCD. I might just have to wait until a full walkthrough is released 😭😭😭
Something happened...
That's a bug! (Or rather, the result of using a bug.)
is this bug required / intended to be used for other parts in the game?
No, but(before I knew it was a bug) I used it to get stars and bypass sections.
Correct! I'm actually kind of sad, since I feel like people were given a worse "experience" due to this bug. Hopefully it should be patched by tomorrow! (I was slow on implementing bugfixes because I wanted to take a break.)
PLEASE DON'T PATCH IT YET!!! If you do, that will trigger my OCD and other mental health disorders and conditions resulting in me being unable to play or enjoy the game.
Alternative: Send me a full walkthrough.
7,21 SOS
Not sure which part of it you're stuck on, so here's the answers to both puzzle parts needed to exit the room. If it's the star your stuck on, I'm at a complete loss on that one too.
Rot13, just for variety this time ;)
The kitty-conveyor (I assume this is the sticking point - at least it's the part that took me a long time until I just stumbled onto it):
Fgrc bss gur 6-synt, fgrc onpx ba gur 6-synt. Jnyx fgenvtug bagb gur pbairlbe oryg. Fgrc vagb gur ragenapr ghaary naq onpx gb ergevrir n png. Erivir gur png. Hfr gur gjb pngf gb chfu gur qrnq png bagb gur vpr.
The 0-flag stack:
Gevttre gur synt naq qvr. Chfu gur obggbz obhyqre evtug, chfu gur gbc obhyqre evtug. Trg ba gbc bs gur fgnpx - vg'yy chfu lbh hc, fnivat lbh gur bar zbir lbh bgurejvfr arrqrq gb znxr vg gb gur rkvg.
Umm...
How to get star?
I'd advise you proceed to the rocket/finale first, by saving enough cats to open the gate. If you've done that already, just leave the screen. ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
At this point I'm barely passing with what appears to be a glitch. But still getting stuck.
Okay, now what have I done???
How to solve 6,14 top section?
6,14 is kind of evil.
You say "top section" so I assume you've just passed the splitter?
You need to revive the cat by pushing it onto the 9 or 3 flag. The only purpose for reviving a cat is to stone one to nuke the 4-flag. Get both cats above the medusa so that one is above the flag and other other directly above the medusa. Move one down to destroy the flag. Then you have just enough movement to get down to the 9-flag, which gives you just enough to reach the top 4-flag.
That doesn't give you enough to reach the top exit though. This is where it's evil, and you learn something new about the way the maps work (although you might have run into it on another level already).
Step out the left exit - there's a hidden tunnel you can use to come back in the right one space closer to the top exit, with 5 movement points.
I now am stuck on star 5,15 and am unsure of how to complete it as well.
That one took me a while too. Once I solved it I thought "oh yeah, that was obvious in hindsight"... and then I went back to redo it to answer you and it took me several minutes to remember the solution.
Hints and solution, after the break (if I put enough lines in this of course :P)
You won't be able to solve 5,15 until you beat the room at least once. Don't even try for the star before that.
The 8-star flag gives you enough moves to reach the star - but only if the 1-star flag is gone. There's nowhere you can push the 1-star flag to get rid of it though. There is another way to remove a flag, that you probably hit in another level.
Solution:
After beating the level, return from the top. Revive the extra cat, position the cats so that the revived cat is between the 4 and the medusa. Petrify the original cat on the 1-star flag to remove it. Loop through the flags to restore your movement and get the star.
How do you beat the level? That's what I meant by "complete". I usually use "complete" to indicate solving the level and "star" to get the star(specific to this game). I use similar phraseology for other games as well.
I think I just glitched it. No idea what I did, but I just loaded up the game, "died" and the "dead"(part of the level) cat was suddenly spawned alive while my "active" cat was at the beginning of the section. So now I have a cat "stuck" on the six flags(no pun intended) while the glitched one can easily get to the flag LMAO. Can't solve the level though!
Ah, sorry. I saw the "stuck on star" and misread the "how to complete" question.
Solution follows (as long as I didn't miss a step):
Revive the extra cat. Move around to the left of the "free" medusa. Push the medusa right, stoning the original cat. You have just enough movement left to grab the 4-flag, but that won't be enough. So hit the 4, then go to the 8 to top up. Then you can push the stone/medusa one space further. Use the 4 again to reach the 8, push the medusa down, then just keep bouncing between the flags as necessary until you can push the rock and the 1-flag into the tunnel enough to turn around and walk up past the last medusa.
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"Impossible?"
Can anyone tell me how to do 12,17 (the right side) i have no clue what im supposed to do
i found a bug that when you quit the game & reenter, running out of moves revives all grey cats
Need help on 5,16. I've tried logically for over 8 hours cumulative. Random combinations for about 3 hours. No joy. Nose is cold.
(rot13)
lbh arrq gb fjnc gur cbfvgvba bs gur ebpx naq gur fgnghr. fgneg ol chfuvat gur fgnghr gb gur evtug (hfvat gur ebpx). gura chfu gur ebpx qbja naq nebhaq gb gur evtug bs gur fgnghr. chfu gurz obgu gb gur yrsg. trg gur ebpx ba gbc bs gur fgnghr naq chfu gurz hc gbtrgure, gura jva.
I figured as much. But I can't get it done. I've tried for the duration mentioned above.
NGL, my progress(a lot) got cleared somehow the first playthrough. I created a new browser profile(chrome) and it seems okay now. Also, I can't remember how I did most of it. The majority of rooms, I cleared(and stars) by literally trying random combinations.
WTF
Works As Intended :)
WTF??? HUH??? WUT???
Really the only puzzle I can do is the star in room 5,15. I think everything else is locked behind that lol. I'm sure I'm just being stupid but I've worked on this room alone for over an hour.
Nope that was the last thing. I have 100% now :)